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		<title>Comment on The pleasures of bad arguments by Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds great. I could do with a decent guide to logical fallacies.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A life based on reason and compassion by Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify that when I&#039;m talking about reason, really I&#039;m talking about reasoning skills and learning about different kinds of arguments and rhetoric. I want to learn the tools to understand the implications of various types of arguments and learn how to assess claims. There are parts of various religious texts and teachings which present useful or interesting arguments, and a lot more parts which could present good examples for study and discussion. I wouldn&#039;t really like to make a judgment on which parts of a religion are &#039;reasonable&#039; or &#039;unreasonable&#039;; I&#039;m much more amenable to the idea of people finding value for themselves in these texts and ideas. For some people that may be religious value, and for others it may be as a way to think about the world.

I&#039;m sure there is much to be learned from looking at the different types of religions. I&#039;ve always been fascinated by the way that having multiple gods can be used to represent and explore different personality types and aspects of the same personality, and I suspect that nature religions contain a lot of information about cycles of nature and local knowledge of flora and fauna. I imagine that monotheistic religions work in a slightly different way again. Speculating a little from what I know about Christianity in particular, I can see that a monotheistic religion can have emphasis on one particular narrative and encourage a focus on the idea of building a one-on-one relationship. Maybe that encourages people to think more in terms of individual responsibility and less in terms of group behaviour and identity. I&#039;m not a theologian so I could be wildly wrong here though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify that when I&#8217;m talking about reason, really I&#8217;m talking about reasoning skills and learning about different kinds of arguments and rhetoric. I want to learn the tools to understand the implications of various types of arguments and learn how to assess claims. There are parts of various religious texts and teachings which present useful or interesting arguments, and a lot more parts which could present good examples for study and discussion. I wouldn&#8217;t really like to make a judgment on which parts of a religion are &#8216;reasonable&#8217; or &#8216;unreasonable&#8217;; I&#8217;m much more amenable to the idea of people finding value for themselves in these texts and ideas. For some people that may be religious value, and for others it may be as a way to think about the world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there is much to be learned from looking at the different types of religions. I&#8217;ve always been fascinated by the way that having multiple gods can be used to represent and explore different personality types and aspects of the same personality, and I suspect that nature religions contain a lot of information about cycles of nature and local knowledge of flora and fauna. I imagine that monotheistic religions work in a slightly different way again. Speculating a little from what I know about Christianity in particular, I can see that a monotheistic religion can have emphasis on one particular narrative and encourage a focus on the idea of building a one-on-one relationship. Maybe that encourages people to think more in terms of individual responsibility and less in terms of group behaviour and identity. I&#8217;m not a theologian so I could be wildly wrong here though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A life based on reason and compassion by cath</title>
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		<dc:creator>cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be a fair paraphrase to say then that for you, the reasonable parts of religion are those which don&#039;t depend on beliefs for which there is no visible evidence? 

And is there any virtue in distinguishing between different kinds of religion, so that you could, say, evaluate those which believe in the existence of gods separately from any which belives in the existence of one unique and necessarily existent God?

Asking for interest, not annoyance : ) 

And will be away from computer now till Monday night, so no urgent reply necessary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be a fair paraphrase to say then that for you, the reasonable parts of religion are those which don&#8217;t depend on beliefs for which there is no visible evidence? </p>
<p>And is there any virtue in distinguishing between different kinds of religion, so that you could, say, evaluate those which believe in the existence of gods separately from any which belives in the existence of one unique and necessarily existent God?</p>
<p>Asking for interest, not annoyance : ) </p>
<p>And will be away from computer now till Monday night, so no urgent reply necessary!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The pleasures of bad arguments by thenarcissismofsmalldifferences</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenarcissismofsmalldifferences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep an eye out for those Philosophers Claire ;0)</description>
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		<title>Comment on A life based on reason and compassion by Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe it is possible to learn about reason and compassion from religion and I do not assume that religion is inherently unreasonable, although I choose to reject the beliefs for which I see no evidence (e.g. existence of gods). The suggestions and categories listed above are very much a rough guide. As I was writing it I was painfully aware that there is a lot of overlap between the different subjects and categories. 

Focusing on the example of Religious Education, one may point out that religious teachings and discussion include philosophical arguments and approaches to exploring ethical issues or interpreting texts. Religious texts often include stories of individual figures and morality tales which illustrate perspectives and encourage empathy and compassion. Some critics of religion would argue that religious texts belong entirely to the realm of literature. I included religious education in my &#039;shared human values&#039; category because I felt that as well as the texts, there is the whole element of how people put their beliefs into practice and live their lives. I figure it helps to take a step back from theoretical based studies and take a look at what people are actually doing as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe it is possible to learn about reason and compassion from religion and I do not assume that religion is inherently unreasonable, although I choose to reject the beliefs for which I see no evidence (e.g. existence of gods). The suggestions and categories listed above are very much a rough guide. As I was writing it I was painfully aware that there is a lot of overlap between the different subjects and categories. </p>
<p>Focusing on the example of Religious Education, one may point out that religious teachings and discussion include philosophical arguments and approaches to exploring ethical issues or interpreting texts. Religious texts often include stories of individual figures and morality tales which illustrate perspectives and encourage empathy and compassion. Some critics of religion would argue that religious texts belong entirely to the realm of literature. I included religious education in my &#8217;shared human values&#8217; category because I felt that as well as the texts, there is the whole element of how people put their beliefs into practice and live their lives. I figure it helps to take a step back from theoretical based studies and take a look at what people are actually doing as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A life based on reason and compassion by cath</title>
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		<dc:creator>cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might only be slightly related, but you say this:
&quot;Religious beliefs and instruction provide the moral framework for how many people live their lives and as such, it greatly benefits the humanist to learn about and discuss these ideas.&quot;

-- can I ask whether it&#039;s possible in principle that one could learn about reason (and also compassion i suppose) from religion? Or is it part of your underlying philosophy that religion is inherently unreasonable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might only be slightly related, but you say this:<br />
&#8220;Religious beliefs and instruction provide the moral framework for how many people live their lives and as such, it greatly benefits the humanist to learn about and discuss these ideas.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; can I ask whether it&#8217;s possible in principle that one could learn about reason (and also compassion i suppose) from religion? Or is it part of your underlying philosophy that religion is inherently unreasonable?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A life based on reason and compassion by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way you segment these sources of learning, it feels like the intuitive underlying architecture to what had previously been a vary vague image in my mind.

I&#039;ve been following my own path in a somewhat haphazard fashion, filling in (I thought) on the &#039;literature&#039; element lately with Joseph Campbell&#039;s &quot;The Hero with a Thousand Faces&quot;. It gives a very compelling framework for much of the myths, fairytales, legends and religious teachings, and has in fact turned out to be a useful tool under your &#039;shared human values&#039; category.

Considering the above as a mental checklist, I&#039;d say I&#039;ve been most remiss in the areas of philosophy and law. Thanks for helping me to see this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way you segment these sources of learning, it feels like the intuitive underlying architecture to what had previously been a vary vague image in my mind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following my own path in a somewhat haphazard fashion, filling in (I thought) on the &#8216;literature&#8217; element lately with Joseph Campbell&#8217;s &#8220;The Hero with a Thousand Faces&#8221;. It gives a very compelling framework for much of the myths, fairytales, legends and religious teachings, and has in fact turned out to be a useful tool under your &#8217;shared human values&#8217; category.</p>
<p>Considering the above as a mental checklist, I&#8217;d say I&#8217;ve been most remiss in the areas of philosophy and law. Thanks for helping me to see this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Atheist Plinth by Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the lovely write-up! Didn&#039;t spot you were giving out leaflets - nice one. Really glad you came along and enjoyed it, and thanks for encouraging people to join in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the lovely write-up! Didn&#8217;t spot you were giving out leaflets &#8211; nice one. Really glad you came along and enjoyed it, and thanks for encouraging people to join in!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the pope is wrong about men and women by Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I couldn&#039;t actually find a verbatim account of what he said in its entirety. I ended up having to fish about getting different bits from different newspaper accounts. My overall impression is that he was pretty down on gender theory and homosexuality. Personally, what interested me about the comments was how a humanist might respond to them and whether the average humanist is actually any better informed on these issues than the Pope.

I can&#039;t seem to find any publically available figures for the overall occurrence but an article on Radio 4&#039;s Woman&#039;s Hour gives a figure of one child in every thousand (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/2001_50_tue_01.shtml). The wikipedia article on Klinefelter&#039;s Syndrome describes it as the second most common condition caused by the presence of extra chromosomes. The Down&#039;s Symdrome Association in the UK lists the incidence of Down&#039;s Syndrome as 1 in 1,000 children born if that is a useful comparator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I couldn&#8217;t actually find a verbatim account of what he said in its entirety. I ended up having to fish about getting different bits from different newspaper accounts. My overall impression is that he was pretty down on gender theory and homosexuality. Personally, what interested me about the comments was how a humanist might respond to them and whether the average humanist is actually any better informed on these issues than the Pope.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find any publically available figures for the overall occurrence but an article on Radio 4&#8217;s Woman&#8217;s Hour gives a figure of one child in every thousand (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/2001_50_tue_01.shtml)" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/2001_50_tue_01.shtml)</a>. The wikipedia article on Klinefelter&#8217;s Syndrome describes it as the second most common condition caused by the presence of extra chromosomes. The Down&#8217;s Symdrome Association in the UK lists the incidence of Down&#8217;s Syndrome as 1 in 1,000 children born if that is a useful comparator.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And here comes another one by Stuart Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My most gracious thanks to you! Let the discussions begin!</description>
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